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CITAZIONE (Garalla @ 8/2/2016, 23:26) 
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Cercando su internet come è morto Kouji han scoperto che 17 anni prima lui e una certa Amanda Huges sono morti nella stessa maniera sospetta in due camere d'hotel separate a causa dell'APTX4869 Ma mentre non c'era niente di sospetto nella stanza di Amanda in quella di Kouji c'erano diversi indizi ma che non han portato a nulla. Akai a seguito di questo mistero non risolto ha deciso di unirsi all'FBI

non credo serva mettere in spoiler, siamo già nella sezione apposita
 
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Quindi Akai sa tutto sull'omicidio di Kouji, speriamo ci spieghi tutto quel che c'è da sapere, visto che finalmente è riapparso.
 
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view post Posted on 9/2/2016, 07:56     +1   -1
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Sempre se la gente si mette a parlare, perché in DC o parlano da soli o fanno domande stupide agli altri
 
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#FILE948 by mihuaxueyuan + Relevant info translation by presumenothing:

p2: 17 years ago, Kouji, who held 4 shogi titles at the time, went to America for the chess competition. But on the day before the competition, he was attacked by someone unknown in his hotel room and died. The room was quite a mess, it appears that Kouji fought back, and his cause of death is unknown. Amanda Hughes, who was in the same hotel, died in another room on the same day, COD also unknown

p3: Amanda had been a big fan of Kouji and had interacted with him before. Amanda's bodyguard, whom she called "Asaka", disappeared since that day and was thus the prime suspect. "Asaka's" real identity is still unknown, and no one seems to know how Amanda ended up hiring him
Haibara hasn't heard of Asaka, but she thinks the possibility of him having been an Org member is high

p3-4: Conan points out it's weird for Kouji's name to be 2 below his. Haibara says the person in charge of the data probably didn't arrange it by chronological order, but possibly by the victims' blood types instead. Conan asks Haibara how old she is, if the drug he was given existed 17 years ago. Haibara "That's rude, I've told you, haven't I? I'm 18..."

p4: Haibara says the drug may have been made by her parents, because she remade the drug by collecting the burned remains of the data. Her parents' research facility caught fire, which both destroyed the drug data and killed her parents, though she heard that it was an accident from others in the BO

p4: Haibara's thought "But, what they truly wanted me to make..." "Was another drug..."

p4: Haibara speculates that Kouji was killed for coincidentally witnessing Amanda's murder, apparently Amanda had some sort of connections (? not sure what exactly) to the FBI and CIA. Fingerprints confirm that Amanda had been to Kouji's room, probably to have tea

p5: among the wreckage in the room is the broken mirror with P T ON, Haibara suggests that the PUT ON MASCARA, which a manufacturer had been printing on mirrors to sell with their mascara. Her sister also had one of those mirrors, which belonged to her mother

p5-6: Haibara is disturbed by the messy state of the room, since the BO wouldn't have left it like that. In fact, Amanda's room had been made to look like nothing happened, as per their usual MO.

p6: the bathroom tap in Kouji's room was left running. Conan says someone seems to have been regularly uploading the case info online, as if asking for help to solve the mystery.

p7: Kouji's right hand bear marks of having tightly gripped the small scissors provided in the room, which reminds Agasa of a murder that happened this morning. The victim was gripping a pair of scissors Agasa invented, so Megure asked him to go to the scene

p8: Okiya (along with his extra nikujaga...) asks to go to the scene with them, saying that there's something about the case that attracted his notice.

p8: Okiya then says it's alright if Haibara doesn't go, since she can watch the house by herself. Haibara asks if he's leaving her to eat bad cooking alone (apparently the vegetables in a soup that he'd given them previously weren't thoroughly cooked, as if he'd come over with unfinished cooking after hearing a conversation over bugs, so that he could be involved in the case XD)

p9: Okiya calls Camel while leaving the house, requesting that he protect her

p11: victim is president of a real estate company, killed by blunt force trauma, and found holding one of Agasa's scissors

p12: the glass shards on the floor of the room have patterns and lettering on them, and seems to match another glass on the bathroom counter

p13-4: Conan notices blood on the glass shards near the doorway, but it turns out to be the first discoverer's blood.

p16: Okiya asks Takagi if the tap had been left running, and Takagi confirms it

p16: Okiya (thinking) "So it's as I expected..." Conan "Hey, Akai-san..." "This case... is there something wrong about it?" Okiya "You've noticed it too, haven't you, kid?" "It's far too similar..." "To the case where Haneda Kouji was killed... 17 years ago..." "The one that forced me to join the FBI..." "That case..."

Fonte: pagina fb "Detective Conan - The Red Thread"
 
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view post Posted on 9/2/2016, 16:40     +2   +1   -1
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Forse qualcosa si muove. Certo che se Haibara avesse detto i nomi nella lista a Conan questo caso sarebbe potuto avvenire al volume 19, giusto per ricordare l'impegno del gurzo nello sgominare i MIB XD
 
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#FILE949 -Shonen Sunday #12 (release date: February 17)
Official Teaser from websunday

Translation by bash7353:
"The case that made Akai Shuuichi join the FBI... Has the time come at last to touch on the core of the Organisation...!? News about 20th anniversary year as well!!"

Fonte: pagina Fb "Detective Conan - The Red Thread"
 
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CITAZIONE (Yukiko Fujimine @ 9/2/2016, 18:11) 
Fonte: pagina Fb "Detective Conan - The Red Thread"

Si certooooooo!!! Novità sull'organizazione.......sono vent'anni che Gosho ci fa penare !!!!!
 
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view post Posted on 9/2/2016, 18:50     +1   -1
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Dopo che mi sono sbarazzato della serie, vuoi vedere che Gosho s'è messo paura ed ha capito che deve darsi una svegliata?

Comunque restiamo a vedere…

Comunque, sarà che dimentico che cose, ma chi sarebbe questo Kouji che è diventato così importante leggendo un po' gli spoiler?
 
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view post Posted on 9/2/2016, 19:11     +1   +1   -1

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CITAZIONE (Sensei della montagna @ 9/2/2016, 18:50) 
Dopo che mi sono sbarazzato della serie, vuoi vedere che Gosho s'è messo paura ed ha capito che deve darsi una svegliata?

Comunque restiamo a vedere…

Comunque, sarà che dimentico che cose, ma chi sarebbe questo Kouji che è diventato così importante leggendo un po' gli spoiler?

Non lo conosci perché è comparso tipo il capitolo scorso :tonned:

Ai si è ricordata di questo nome presente nella lista delle vittime dell'APTX4869 dopo che l'ha sentito nominare da Yumi nel capitolo scorso. Al di là di questo dovrebbe essere un fratello adottivo di Shuchiki Haneda, che è praticamente certo essere fratello di mezzo della famiglia Akai, nonché fidanzato di Yumi.

Kouji è morto in circostanze misteriose 17 anni prima, mentre era già un esperto giocatore di shogi tanto da spingere Shuchiki a intraprendere la stessa carriera per onorare il nome del fratello.
Questa è una supposizione mia, ma non credo troppo errata. Shuchiki ha il cognome diverso da quello paterno per motivi ignoti ma dovrebbe avere il cognome della madre, poi cambiato per motivi ignoti in Haneda ovvero quello del fratello adottivo. Questo mi fa pensare che potrebbe essere il figlio di una relazione passata di uno dei due coniugi Akai-Masumi e che la sua scoperta da parte dell'altro coniuge abbia portato ad una certa distanza tra i due (tant'è che i due figli successivi a Shuichi non hanno il cognome Akai ma Masumi). E il cognome diverso sarebbe da attribuire al fatto che è cresciuto con l'altro genitore.
Dalla foto che vediamo in questo capitolo Kouji ha almeno 20-25 anni ed è morto 17 anni fa quindi dovrebbe avere almeno 37 anni se fosse ancora vivo. Più grande di Shuichi stesso probabilmente anche se non ne siamo certi non avendoci mai dato la sua età. Il che mi porta a pensare che la misteriosa Masumi adesso avrebbe sui 60 anni, ma secondo Sera Ran dovrebbe riconoscerla

Ma questa morte ha anche spinto Shuichi Akai a diventare un agente dell'FBI (parole sue in questo ultimo capitolo) e alla scoperta da parte di quest'ultimo dell'organizzazione.

Sera invece potrebbe non sapere dell'esistenza di Kouji, data al sua morte misteriosa e collegata all'organizzazione, dato che dovrebbe avere 16-17 anni e quindi non averlo mai visto o averlo conosciuto che era appena nata e per tenerla più al sicuro hanno voluto tenerla all'oscuro di questo caso.

Edited by Garalla - 9/2/2016, 19:27
 
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Che casino sta famiglia di Sera…adesso spunta un quarto fratello…ero rimasto a tre XD.

Dovrò leggere un po' di capitoli che vanno dal post-volume 84 sino a quelli odierni…
 
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CITAZIONE (Sensei della montagna @ 9/2/2016, 19:26) 
Che casino sta famiglia di Sera…adesso spunta un quarto fratello…ero rimasto a tre XD.

Dovrò leggere un po' di capitoli che vanno dal post-volume 84 sino a quelli odierni…

E infatti per Sera sono e rimango 3. Facile facile che non conosca questo eventuale quarto fratello che dovrebbe essere un fratello adottivo o un fratellastro (in un primo messaggio si diceva che non si capiva se era il termine giapponese di brother in law o di stepbrother. Che il primo termine comunque vuol dire cognato e non fratello adottivo...).
Non ho capito però per quale motivo non dovrebbe essere a detta di tutti un fratello di sangue.
 
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Credo per una questione di traduzione del termine giapponese, che esclude la consanguientà del fratello ma allo stesso tempo rimane ambiguo.
 
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Fujiwara: 949: Okiya says the one affected by events 17 years ago wasn't him but his father. Conan tries to ask about his father but is instead asked about his identity, so he breaks off (the conversation).
 
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File 949: Sweet scent

Okiya lets out that it was his father and not him who was involved in the case of 17 years ago: when Conan tries asking about his father Okiya instead asks Conan who he really is so Conan doesn't ask anymore.

The 1st discoverer (owner of a candy shop) has his wounds taken care of and is about to leave yet he's stopped from doing so (presumably by the police). Okiya then asks him whether he stepped into glass with the right foot. The 1st discoverer replies that he stepped into the glass with the left foot and that he'd damaged his right foot in an accident time ago. Nevertheless, they ask the 1st discoverer to recreate his tale of the discovery.

After the man got checked by the bodyguards on the entrance of the annex he opened the sliding door to step inside yet no-one came out: he called out in a loud voice yet there was no response.

He then realized that the bathroom's dressing room door further inside was opened: he peeked inside and found the victim already dead or so he says yet if the door was fully opened then he shouldn't have stepped on the debris: if they are to believe that the door was only a bit opened then it feels odd that the debris weren't stepped by the opened door.

The 1st discoverer objects that if he'd been the one to attack the victim he should have blood spurts: he takes off his coat but his shirt's buttons aren't correctly set. The back's cuff is popping out of the trousers and despite that he's tightened the tie his outfit as a whole is untidy.

The forensics finish taking photos of the crime scene and are about to retrieve the debris when Okiya asks the 1st discoverer whether he stepped into the debris barefoot or not: the man answers he was wearing slippers and brings out evidence of that. The forensics carrying the body pass next to the ground and they notice a sweet scent: for some unknown reason the victim's wounds see to have a honey-like paste.

Megure tells Conan and the other 2 to come out and they are convinced that the man is the culprit yet how he did it and what was the weapon remain unknown: they ask the bodyguards about what the 1st discoverer carried upon coming:

. A vinyl bag containing a bonus figure to be put in candy
. His wallet
. A handkerchief
. Keys

And, apart from that there was a color ball like the ones that sell in candy shops that landed in the yard: it was only 1 ball and no-one came to ask for it so they didn't mind it but now that there's this case going on they'd handed it over to the police.

It was rolling on the ground next to a small window without steel bars, the bathroom's feet but it was a small space in which not even a child could fit in: they add that it was pretty loud when it was rolling on the ground despite its size: Conan and Okiya begin to wonder if the weapon was hidden inside of that ball when Agasa screams at seeing a row of ants. He says that they're cute when they're picture book drawings but he hates the real ones.

Okiya looks at where the ants head to and finds something that's ended up beneath the edge (of the bathroom?).

Side-note: "Is the weapon where the ants head to...!? Next issue, the resolution!"
 
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view post Posted on 13/2/2016, 12:57     +1   -1
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Spero che nel file successivo ci sia un maggiore approfondimento sulla questione del padre di Akai o comunque sulla morte di Kouji. Perché se no qua non ce la si cava più... visto che c'è anche in ballo la questione Rum che mi pare accantonata da troppi capitoli
 
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