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Una conclusione per:

Sonoko Suzuki e Makoto Kyogoku?

Jodie Starling e Shuichi Akai?

La mia OTP (Makoto e Sonoko) è confermata e conclusa già dal capitolo in cui nasce, abbiamo però avuto la vera conclusione ormai un po' di volumi indietro quando viene presentato alla famiglia Suzuki (il caso con Kid).

Tristemente Akai e Jodie non avrà una conclusione, perché credo che sia ritenuta naufragata per la storia di Akemi. Inoltre in DC se perdi il tuo innamorato devi essere contesa da almeno 50 persone e poi concederti dopo 200 casi dedicati alla tua love story e dopo un centinaio di capitoli dove comparite insieme ma senza accenni alla love story (vedi Sato). Oppure in realtà eri innamorato di una persona perché credevi fosse un altra, che fingono sia uguale (Shiratori).


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KOMEI.
questo caso è già bellissimo.

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Maa non si sapeva già dal movie 3? (va bene che non è canonico eh) ma boh io lo do per scontato da un pezzo che Kid sa l'identità di Conan.

Qua le possibilità sono tre a mio parere:

1) Siccome ormai hanno sdoganato che i film te li devi vedere se vuoi avere informazioni sul manga, hanno buttato che Kid conosce Conan per la solfa del terzo (?) film - ormai sono così tanti che mi è difficile associare il numero alla trama

2) Potrebbero banalmente spiegare che Kid sa di Conan, perché lui lo ha ammesso per farsi aiutare nel caso del Mistery Train

3) FORSE ci stanno per rivelare che il cognome da nubile di Chikage è Kudo
 
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view post Posted on 26/8/2018, 11:17     +4   +1   -1
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Prima il MT, ora è canonico che Kid sa di Shinichi...ce lo ritroveremo nella battaglia finale :cry:
 
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view post Posted on 26/8/2018, 16:32     +3   +1   -1

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Già dagli spoiler sento la mancanza delle traduzioni di Yunnie

Edited by Joseki - 27/8/2018, 15:57
 
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view post Posted on 26/8/2018, 21:48     +3   +1   -1
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Anch'io ormai davo per scontato che Kid sapesse, anche se era confermato solo dai film. Spero solo stia fuori dalla trama dei MIB.
 
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view post Posted on 27/8/2018, 12:02     +3   +1   -1
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Che Kid conoscesse la vera identità di Conan lo si poteva tranquillamente capire dal suo comportamento sul MT, spero solo che Gosho ora non renda canonico il movie 3 ma almeno spieghi come è nata questa (mirabolante ) deduzione nel manga.
Per il resto pare che ci sia un aggancio molto sottile tra questo file e il caso dell'omicida seriale delle poliziotte, una busta ricevuta da Conan, se ho ben afferato la traduzione delle anticipazioni (si sente purtroppo la mancanza di Yunnie).
Detto ciò mi aspettavo una ripresa di tutta'altra classe, inutile celare la delusione; questo file sarà utile solo se si chiuderà almeno una sottotrama, ma io non ci metterei la mano sul fuoco a questo riguardo, meglio aspettare .
 
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view post Posted on 29/8/2018, 02:23     +2   +1   -1
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Traduzione file 1018, scusate l'incolonnatura :D
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English translation of file 1018:
p.1
Side note: Heiji is extremely
distressed... And the reason for that
is--
Heiji (thinking): It's no good...
Heiji (thinking): It's just no good...
Heiji (thinking): If I simply confess
somewhere with nice scenery...
Heiji (thinking): I'll be losin' to Kudo...
Heiji (thinking): If I wanna win against
him...
Heiji (thinking): I've gotta prepare
myself...
Heiji (thinking): After all, that guy...
Heiji (thinking): On that crowded stage
at Kiyomizu...
p.2
Case part 1
File 1018: In the ice
Heiji (thinking): He jus' went an'
smooched her...
He really doesn't halfass things...
Text: Heiji frets after his rival got there
first(?)---!!
p.3
Heiji: That really must've been lip on
lip...
if ya were gonna go an' do somethin'
like that, ya should've told me
beforehand. it gave me a right shock...
Kazuha: What gave ya a shock?
Heiji: Kazuha?!
Kazuha: I bought us some iced tea!
Kazuha: And? What is it that gave ya a
shock?
Heiji: Ah, th-that's...
Heiji: I meant...
Heiji: That museum where we're going
today with Kudo--
Heiji: C-Conan-kun and the others... I
was so surprised when people all
started suddenly sayin' that Kaitou Kid
might be going there too...
Kazuha: I know, right?
Kazuha: There're rumours tha' Kid
stood on top of the Tsuutenkaku
before, but, back then I never saw him
with my own eyes...
Kazuha: so this is really somethin' to
look forward to, right? <3
Heiji: R-right...
Kazuha: Speakin' of things to look
forward to...
Kazuha: The jewel Kid is aimin' fer...
p.4
Kazuha: is the world's biggest conch
pearl...
Kazuha: The Fairy's Lip!!
Kazuha: A long, thin, pink pearl - I
can't wait to see it!!
Heiji (thinking): Fairy's lip...
Lips of a fairy...
Heiji (thinking): Lips...
Kazuha: What is it?
Ya've been starin' at my mouth for a
while now...
Kazuha: is there somethin' on it?
Heiji: Ah, er, well...
Kazuha: It's seaweed! It's 'cause I ate
Takoyaki this morning...
Kazuha: If Ran-chan an' the others saw
this, I'd be laughed at...
Heiji (thinking): Takoyaki, huh?
Heiji (thinking): It'd probably taste like
takoyaki sauce...
p.5
Ran: Eh? You're almost at Shin-
Yokohama?
Ran: Then we'll be heading to Tokyo
station to pick you up, so wait for us,
Kazuha-chan!
Kogoro: Seriously, that rich old
geezer...
Kogoro: He goes and flashily picks a
fight with Kid again...
[Newspaper horizontal: Steal it if you
can!!]
[Newspaper vertical: Suzuki Jirokichi
calls out Kaitou Kid!!]
Kogoro: Are you really going to that
museum?
Kogoro: There's going to be so much
security that you won't be able to
properly see the jewel anyway.
Conan: Ah, but...
Conan: It says here, "We're making
preparations to allow people to cooly
look at the jewel from all sides".
Kogoro (thinking): There he goes,
reading kanji...
Conan: They might have come up with
something!
p.6
Box: One week earlier
Jirokichi: This won't do at all!!
Jirokichi: With this security set-up, that
moonlight magician will once again
successfully steal the jewel...
Jirokichi: And easily get away!!
Jirokichi: This time, let's ignore the
fact that the jewel might get stolen...
Jirokichi: isn't there a better method to
ensure that that guy definitely can't get
away?!
Nakamori: As I've been saying...
Nakamori: If you just increased the
number of guards around the jewel...
Nakamori: It wouldn't even get stolen
in the first place!!
Jirokichi: If we increase them any
further, the visitors won't be able to
enjoy looking at the jewel!
Nakamori: Hmph! Who cares about the
visitors?!
They're probably mostly Kid fans
anyway...
Jirokichi: Anyway, we have one more
week until the jewel will be put on
display!
We need to come up with a better plan
until then...
Jirokichi: Or we will end up seeing that
conceited scoundrel's audacious smile
this time as well...
p.7
Jirokichi: I came all the way to the
Metropolitan Police Department, but it
turned out to be a fool's errand!
Guy in a suit: But Sir, Inspector
Nakamori has a point as well!
Wouldn't it be better to tighten the
security around the jewel?
Glasses guy: By surrounding the display
case with a steel fence, for example...
Jirokichi: Even if we do that, it'll just
get stolen anyway!
Jirokichi: As I said before, let's attack
rather than defend! We need to come
up with a plan to ensure that that guy
can't get away...
Koumei: Attacking the exterior...
Without fortifying the defence of the
interior...
Koumei: is a foolish undertaking...
[TN: Quote attributed to Zhuge Liang, a
military strategist during the Three
Kingdoms period in China.]
Jirokichi: Eh?
Koumei: These words were reputedly
said a long time ago by a certain
strategist who made a name for himself
in China.
Jirokichi: Are you part of the police?
Koumei: Yes... Although not of the
Metropolitan Police Department...
Jirokichi: But how would you go about
fortifying the defence...?
Jirokichi: I'm being reproached every
damn time for wanting to show the
exhibit to visitors...
Koumei: Hmm...
Koumei: Then how about this?
p.8
People: I-
People: Ice?!
People: You put the jewel into ice?!
Conan: I see...
Heiji: This way, ya can cooly look at it
from all sides...
Nakamori: But it's just ice...
if you heat it up, it'll melt, and if you
use a drill, you can make a hole in it...
p.9
Jirokichi: That's not a problem...
With this amount of ice, even with a
gas burner, it'd take quite a while to
melt it...
Jirokichi: And if you were to drill a
hole just to get to the jewel...
Jirokichi: It'd be impossible to get the
jewel out without causing damage!
Jirokichi: What's more, we specially
surrounded this display case with hard
glass...
And keep the temperature here lower
than in the other rooms...
Jirokichi: This way, it's harder to melt
the ice...
Jirokichi: And the guards are outside
the glass...
Allowing people to appreciate the jewel
without feeling unduly intimidated!
Heiji: But, seriously!
Heiji: Ya've thought up somethin' good
there!
Jirokichi: It wasn't my idea!
Jirokichi: The one who came up with
this ingenious plan...
Jirokichi: and who specially came again
today to help out...
p.10
Jirokichi: Was Inspector Morofushi
Takaaki from the homicide department
of the Nagano prefectural police!
Koumei: I merely stated that the
esteemed visitors of this establishment
would also feel cool and refreshed if
we were to employ ice...
Koumei: Well, I also advised that it
would be prudent to enact the plan as
soon as it was decided upon...
Koumei: "Celerity is precious in war"
after all...
Kogoro: Celer-what?
Ran: It's a famous quote of a military
commander from the Three Kingdoms!
[TN: Quote attributed to Guo Jia, an
adviser to the warlord Cao Cao during
the Three Kingdoms period in China.
Celerity is an archaic term for speed.]
Ran: Inspector Morofushi! What are
you doing here?
Koumei: In truth...
Koumei: I came here last week to
confirm a certain something...
Koumei: But the detective in charge
was out on a case and I was unable to
meet them...
Koumei: Thus I came again at this
time...
Conan (thinking): Right, the
policewoman serial murder case
happened last week...
Ran: What is that certain something?
Koumei: An envelope addressed to
me...
Koumei: Or, more precisely, an
envelope that appears to be addressed
to me...
Koumei: The words are blurred and
difficult to make out, and the sender
also seems to be unknown...
[Envelope: Please send this to
Insp*smudge* *smudge*i Takaaki of
the Prefectural Police of *smudge*no]
p.11
Koumei: Well, the reason I chose this
day in particular to come to Tokyo
again...
Koumei: is in no small part because
Advisor Suzuki asked me to come...
Kazuha: Ran-chan, do ya know that
detective?
Ran: Yes! I met him when we
encountered a case in Nagano...
Ran: He's childhood friends with
Inspector Yamato Kansuke and
Detective Uehara Yui who you've also
met before!
Kazuha: Fer real?
Ran: inspector Yamato calls him
Koumei and he really is as sharp as
Zhuge LiangZhuge Liang, alias: Kong
Ming!
Kazuha: I see...
[TN: Koumei is the Japanese reading of
Kong Ming [孔明]]
Kaito (thinking): What's this? Two high
school detectives...
Kaito (thinking): and one strategist-like
police detective from Nagano?
Kaito (thinking): Maybe I should give
up on stealing it tonight...
Kaito (thinking): Once the sun comes
up, that ice should also slowly start
shrinking...
Koumei: But this really is a magnificent
conch pearl...
Koumei: Not only the color, size and
shape...
p.12
Koumei: But also the pattern formed
on the surface is superb!
Koumei: It really does justice to the
name "Fairy's lip"...
Suspect #1: As expected of the
detective that Advisor Suzuki expressly
invited...
Suspect #1: You have good eyes!
Suspect #1: This conch pearl was
found inside a huge Akoya pearl
oyster...
Suspect #1: That was slumbering in
Ago Bay in the prefecture of Mie...
[Intro card: Torigoe Naeji (45) Jewel
broker]
Torigoe: Enchanted by the brilliance of
its iridiscence that is particular to
pearls, I spent a large sum of money to
acquire this unique masterpiece!
Torigoe: I am honored that it can play
a part in the plan to capture Kid!
Torigoe: in exchange, please
compensate me accordingly in the case
that it gets stolen...
Jirokichi: Sure...
Torigoe: After all, this jewel is an
important asset of mine...
That even has a high-paying buyer
already lined up in an auction...
Voice: That's a lie!!!
p.13
Suspect #2: It's a special present that
my grandfather got on his travels...
(edited)
Suspect #2: from a multi-millionaire in
the caribbean!!
Suspect #2: I only handed it to you
because you told me you would find
out its worth...
Suspect #2: And now you refuse to
give it back!!
[Intro card: Yamamoto Moena (21)
Employee]
Torigoe: Yes... Your pearl was rather
similar to mine, so I took it to check it
out...
But, if I recall correctly, I've already
returned it...
Yamamoto: That's right! You returned
it, alright!
Yamamoto: After you replaced the
conch pearl in the ring with a fake!!
Jirokichi: Oi oi, what's the meaning of
this?
Torigoe: Sometimes there're people like
this... Customers who refuse to see
reason...
Yamamoto: Give it back right now!
Yamamoto: That's the jewel that was on
the marriage ring that my grandfather
gave my grandmother...
p.14
Yamamoto: I want to put it into the
coffin of my grandmother, who died
the other day...
Yamamoto: So she can take it with her
to heaven!!
Yamamoto: Let me go!
Yamamoto: My grandmother's funeral
is tomorrow!
There's no time left!
Yamamoto: Lemme go!!
Kaito (thinking): I see...
Kaito (thinking): So that's how it is...
Jirokichi: And? Has Kid still not sent a
notice?
Nakamori: No, still no word...
[SFX: appear]
p.15
Kaito: inspector Nakamori!
SFX: knock knock
Nakamori: Hm?
Nakamori: What is it?
Kaito: Over there...
Kaito: There's a strange ball...
SFX: roll
Nakamori: Th-this is...
Nakamori: A BB?!
Nakamori (thinking): But why would
that be here...?
Koumei: Hm?
Koumei: inspector Nakamori...
Koumei: There's a card...
Koumei: Under your shoe...
Nakamori: Th-this is...
Nakamori: Could it be?!
SFX: peel
p.16
Nakamori: Tonight, at midnight...
Nakamori: I shall appear to claim the
fairy's lip... Kaitou Kid...
[Card: Tonight, at midnight, I shall
appear to claim the Fairy's Lip. Kaitou
Kid]
Nakamori: So you're going to come, as
I thought!!
Nakamori: Kaitou Kid!!
Heiji (thoughts): Appear to claim the
fairy's lip...
Heiji (thoughts): Claim...
Heiji (thoughts): Lips...
Side note: Heiji is more preoccupied
with lips than the jewel...!!
What is Kid's plan of attack for the
jewel in the ice?!


Edited by Faramir - 7/9/2018, 16:03
 
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https://mangadex.org/chapter/439626/1

Spero solo che il tutto si concluda nei canonici tre file...
 
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é bello vedere che finalmente Gosho è tornato al lavoro,speriamo che con questo caso si chiuda finalmente un altra interminabile love story così da cominciare a fare un po di pulizia per quella che,si spera,sarà la saga finale :D

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https://mangadex.org/chapter/439626/1

Spero solo che il tutto si concluda nei canonici tre file...

Da quel che si vede non si direbbe: solitamente lo schema dei tre file è :1Delitto 2 indagine 3 soluzione

Ma qui tra Heji,Kid e il detective di Nagano c'è decisamente troppa carne al fuoco per soli tre file e oltretutto il delitto non si è ancora verificato :rolleyes:
 
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Anche perché, riguardando ora le info precedenti, dovrebbero uscire 4 capitoli da qui al 18 settembre, quindi presumo che si chiuderà in questo lasso temporale.. il fatto è che non mi entusiasma molto questa modalità di ritorno, per ben tre volto Gosho ci ha lasciati con il fiato sospeso e dopo ciascuna pausa non ha mai ripreso il filo del capitolo precedente.
Sono curiosa comunque di vedere come farà dichiarare Heiji, anche se non mi dice nulla come coppia, è comunque una fra le principali.
Il tutto in attesa di rividere finalmente i miei mibbini all'opera :woot:
 
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Interessante inizio, devo dire che la storia della perla sostituita con un falso della signorina mi fa tenerezza. Credo che Kaito voglia rubarla e darla poi a lei per il funerale della nonna defunta.
Il resto del caso sembra interessante, anche se capisco che qui la voglia principale di tutti è che si chiuda definitivamente una delle ultime coppie aperte.
 
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Ora a Heiji tocca reclamare "le labbra di fata" , più smielata di così la faccenda non potrebbe essere .
Se c'è effettivamente un aggancio di trama, allora Conan dovrà mettere le mani su questa misteriosa lettera spedita a Morofushi, il poliziotto stratega . Mi associo a chi dice che sarebbe opportuno finire il tutto nei classici tre files, oltre si rischia un'indigestione di zuccherosità :doh:.
 
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Io la butto lì: Heiji si dichiara a Kazuha ma si scopre che era Kid.
 
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Che tristezza Heiji che si sente in competizione con la dichiarazione di Shinichi :orata:
 
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CITAZIONE (the creator @ 31/8/2018, 13:48) 
Io la butto lì: Heiji si dichiara a Kazuha ma si scopre che era Kid.

È questa la tentazione di Gosho, potrebbe essere uno dei suoi più grandi troll :doh:
 
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CITAZIONE (Shin-kun @ 31/8/2018, 14:28) 
CITAZIONE (the creator @ 31/8/2018, 13:48) 
Io la butto lì: Heiji si dichiara a Kazuha ma si scopre che era Kid.

È questa la tentazione di Gosho, potrebbe essere uno dei suoi più grandi troll :doh:

Se Heji arrivasse a baciarsi appassionatamente con Kazuha-kid sarebbe la trollata definitiva :tonno:
 
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