Hi!! I wanna Learn!!, English/Spanish-Italian

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Rukar

Posted on 2/2/2006, 23:06

I honestly have no knowledge of the language, but have been tryintg to convince dad to teach me for a while. Could someone teach me?

strites

Posted on 3/2/2006, 00:37

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Hi...

are you here for a complete italian course?

Rukar

Posted on 3/2/2006, 02:28

Yes, I am. I don't even know how to say hi, lol.

strites

Posted on 3/2/2006, 03:41

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lol

The basis - yes, no, hello

yes -> sì
no -> no

hello -> ciao
good bye -> (also) ciao
f* off -> vaffanc*lo

ok this is 90% of "learning a language" the rest is surplus

anyother thing?

strites

Posted on 3/2/2006, 04:35

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Thanks

btw, as a neolatin language, there are some grammatical differences between italian and english/american (referred as "english" from now on)

The system of verbs is more like old english (where verbs are different if referred to "I", "you" etc.). Those are called "coniugazione".

The frase structure in italian is almost free, there isn't a strict rule of where to put subject, verb and objects. This can be difficult to understand to anyone used to a fix form of frase (as english).

For example, there can be no difference between normal and interrogative form, except the "?" at the end.

----- I have to sleep, my brain started not o work as intended -----

Obviously, a dictionary is a need to learn a foreign language. Online dictionaries does help a little.

PS: My first languages are italian and japanese... enlish is a language learned on iternet and school (in this order). This forum has an irc channel, located in the azzurra network. You will be (I hope) be welcome there as well

Sherry Haibara

Posted on 5/2/2006, 14:15

L'arte è... un'esplosione!

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I = io
You (second person) = Tu
He = Egli/Lui
She = Ella/Lei
It = esso (masch.) / essa (femm.)
We = noi
You = Voi
They = Essi (masch.) / Esse (femm.) / Loro
There are 3 coniugazioni: -are, -ere, -ire.
For example, mangi-are (to eat) is a verb of the first coniugazione, corr-ere (to run) is a verb of the second coniugazione, dorm-ire (to sleep) is a verb of the third coniugazione. Now I write the present simple of mangiare:
Io (I) mangi/o (eat)
Tu (You) mangi (eat)
Egli/Ella/Esso (he/she/it) mangi/a (eat)
Noi (we) mangi-amo (eat)
Voi (you) mangi-ate (eat)
Essi/Esse/Loro (they) mangi-ano (eat).
Then, the verb is composed for two parts: the first part is the same for all people and is called "Radice" (mangi-), the second part change and is called "Desinenza" (-are, -io, -i, -a, -amo, -ate, -ano). All italian verbs are based on radice and desinenza. In italian there are two groups of modes: "finiti" and "infiniti". The first mode has 4 sub-modes: "Indicativo", "Condizionale", "Congiuntivo", "Imperativo". The second mode has 3 sub-modes: "Infinito", "Gerundio" and "Participio". Finiti's modes indicate the person who do the action, Infiniti's modes no.
I hope that's help you

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Marina_Iris

Posted on 21/9/2006, 05:59

Ciao!!

I wanna learn Italian, it's one of my favorite languages xDD I always wanted to learn it, my native language is Spanish, I'm from México xDD glad to meet you!

well I think that it's all oOo I really like to learn Italian .____. somebody that wants help me plase!!! >o< n' sorry for my not well English '~'

Abayo!

TheKid

Posted on 21/9/2006, 10:12

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From Mexico? Wow!

Well, yes... how can we help you?

Marina_Iris

Posted on 21/9/2006, 20:26

Hi The Kid!! :kid:

Thanks for you help

*O*

mmm perhaps with the typical conversation, you know..

-Hi! How are you?
-I'm Fine, thanks, and you?

something like that, maybe the structure of a sentence in Italian, mmm I have a lot of time in this forum and I hardly cheer up to ask for help xDD I hope to take myself well with you

Abayo ^_^

Sherry Haibara

Posted on 21/9/2006, 20:43

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If you're spanish, I think that's *pretty* simple learn Italian, because the structure is more or less the same

So, some little phrases:
- Hi! How are you? --> Ciao! Come stai (tu)?
- (Io sto) bene, grazie, e tu?
The structure of an italian sentence is likely the spanish and english ones: verb + subject. We can say or not the subject in some phrases, like:
- Hi! How are you? --> Ciao! Come stai (tu)?
In english you need to say "how are YOU", but in italian you can simple say "Come stai" without the subject "tu" (you).
The generic italian structure it's:
Subject + Verb + Other things that we call "complementi" (like where, what, who, to who, etc.)
So, a simple phrase:
- Tu eri al cinema ieri sera? (In english: Were you to the cinema yesterday evening?)
Notice that there isn't a very structure for questions, because in english we need to say first the verb and later the subject, but in italian we can do everything we want XD
So:
Tu (you) is the subject;
eri (were) is the verb;
al cinema (at the cinema) is what we call "complemento di luogo" (it answer to the question: where?);
ieri sera (yesterday evening) is what we call "complemento di tempo" (it answer to the question: when?);
? it's the question symbol. In spanish I know that you use it at the start of the question and at the end of the question. In italian, we just use it at the end of the question.

I'll (maybe) say something other later

Sherry Haibara

Marina_Iris

Posted on 22/9/2006, 03:57

wiiii!! Shugoi!! Thanks Sherry Haibara! Im taking notes

Yeah in spanish we use "¿" to start the question and "?" in the end

oOo it's really similar to Spanish, we also use an implicit verb, that inside the verb, it already has the pronoun included and is not necessary to mention it.

Could you tell me some Basic vocabulary pliss?? *-*

Thanks!!!

TheKid

Posted on 23/9/2006, 00:07

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Hmmm... vediamo... (let's see...)

Buon giorno! ---> Good morning!
Ciao a tutti! ---> Hello everybody!
Come ti chiami? ---> What's your name?
Mi chiamo Fabio ---> My name is Fabio
Quanti anni hai? ---> How old are you?
Ho 21 anni ---> I'm 21 years old
(Io) voglio imparare l'italiano ---> I wanna learn Italian
Qual è il tuo anime preferito? ---> What's your favourite anime?
Mi piace Detective Conan ---> I like Detective Conan
Odio il latte ---> I hate milk (non è vero

that's not true)
Sono stanco ---> I'm tired
Buona notte! ---> Good night!

If you have some specific questions about Italian I think it would be better... I'm not so much able to invent those simple phrases

Marina_Iris

Posted on 26/9/2006, 15:07

Ok! Thanks you The kid, I'll study and I'll see if if I can make some sentence xDD I will see them later on

Ciao!!

marko#89

Posted on 16/11/2006, 18:49

hello! can you translate me many phrases from english to spanish? thank you

Marina_Iris

Posted on 24/11/2006, 20:27

Hello Marko#89! Maybe I can help you =D

Traslate to spanish

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Sherry Haibara

Si eres(tu) español, pienso(yo) que es un *poco* simple aprender Italiano, por que la estructura es más o menos la misma.

Así, algunas frases pequeñas:

- ¡Hola! ¿Cómo estas(tu)? --> Ciao! Come stai (tu)?
- (Io sto) bene, grazie, e tu?
La estructura de una oración Italiana es probablemente como el españ y el Ingles:: verbo + Sujeto(o sustantivo). Podemos(nosotros) decir o no el sujeto en algunas fraces, como:
- ¡Hola! ¿Cómo estas(tu)? --> Ciao! Come stai (tu)?
En ingles necesitas(tu} el "Comó estás TU", pero en italiano puedes (tu) decir simplemente "Come stai" sin el sujeto "tu" (tu[en español es igual xD]).
La estructura italiana general es:
sujeto + Verbo + otra cosa que podemos(nosotros) llamar "complemento(complementi)"" (como dónde, qué, quién, a quién, etc.)
Así, una frase simple:
- Tu eri al cinema ieri sera? (en español: ¿Estabas(tu) en el cine ayer por la noche?)
Notas(tu) que no hay una misma estructura para las preguntas, porque en inglés necesitamos(nosotros) decir primero el verbo y después el sujeto, pero en italiano podemos(nosotros) hacer todo lo que nosotros queremos(nosotros) XD [Es igual en español]
Así:
Tu (tu) es el sujeto;
eri (estás) es el verbo;

:kid:

TheKid

Vocabulario

Buon giorno! ---> ¡Buenos Días!
Ciao a tutti! ---> ¡Hola a todos!
Come ti chiami? ---> ¿Cuál es tu nombre?
Mi chiamo Fabio ---> Mi nombre es Fabio
Quanti anni hai? ---> ¿Cuantos años tienes(tu)?
Ho 21 anni ---> Tengo(yo) 21 años.
(Io) voglio imparare l'italiano ---> Quiero(yo) aprender italiano.
Qual è il tuo anime preferito? ---> ¿Cuál es tu anime favorito?
Mi piace Detective Conan ---> Me gusta Detective Conan
Odio il latte ---> Odio(yo) la leche (non è vero

no es verdad)
Sono stanco ---> estoy(yo) cansado
Buona notte! ---> Buenas noches!

Okas, I think that's all,I wait to have helped you =)

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